Originally posted by jkruta:
I haven't heard a lot of information from the participants on this forum to explain or justify their opinions.
Skunks/scoundrels. That's my opinion Jim and any political party is full of them. But the tip of the iceberg is always "the current" administration and it doesn't make a diff who it is. You asked for information to back up opinions stated here. I could post dozens of links to some very interesting historical info.... but lets start here and although certainly not the beginning of government being a secret society filled with lying scumbags whose biggest concern is taking away your rights and wealth, this is the start of the current "scumbag's" debacle.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timel...line&startpos=0 There's an unbiased, complete transcript and timeline of 9/11 here with imbedded text links to hundreds of news reports backing up all the info. It's not only riveting but it'll get your dander up a bit.
'Course, it is lengthy but because there was more than several bizarre events that happened that day, I found what I was looking for on the below page of the report. Scroll down to {before 10:06 AM} and read several of the following paragraphs from there:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timel...ne&startpos=150 Note that if you read a little further beyond 10:06 AM, it's reported Bush asked Rumsfeld "if this flight {93} was shot down" to which Rumsfeld replied "no." But to the contrary, it appears passenger cell phone conversations/noises, practically every crash eyewitness as well as the crash site debris field, indicates exactly the opposite. I mean for cryin out loud, one of the engines was found a mile from the crash site. There was debris spread over a six square mile area which certainly wasn't "spread" by the plane's impact. This plane was coming apart before it crashed.
If you read back a ways from here, just from now mostly censored open cell phone conversations and noises on the plane, these indicate that the passengers had most likely already retaken control of the flight and two very capable "friendly" pilots {passengers at the time} were probably in control of it or trying to when it crashed. Also note that more than several regular, everyday, humdrum citizens have been told not to discuss anything they heard, saw, smelled, collected with the media. {Hmmm, I wonder what Uncle Sam would do to them if they did talk. Would they strangely disappear?}
I've always suspected this was the case and this action, shooting it down, was perfectly understandable at the time. 'Course, conundrums like these always beg the response "do ya really wanna know?" Well, hell yeah... I don't just wanna know, we all have the right to know!! And it's not within the governments authority to censor information and give it to the public on a "what we think they need to know" basis unless it's of absolute national security.
But here and what's worse. That's not the even the real motivation..... the noble intent by witholding information that would make a very sad catch 22 situation worse. It's because at election time, the current crop of scumbags don't want Bush to be known as "the man who shot down flight 93!"
It's always about power, wealth, reelection and control! Anymore... these guys can't get there with out being liars. It's their way of life!
GAWD.... no more politics for several days.
Brent