How weird! I answered this in a word processor and it's not accepting the bottom of the post.

Anyway, let me try again:

[QUOTE]Heterosexual marraige is ALSO a private and personal choice, yes? But with that choice the participants enter into a condition with all sorts of additional concerns. Concerns that often result in (require?) public scrutiny, judicial intervention and governmental control.

Oy. Okay, my last line is that I don't understand that. There's no public scrutiny when a man and woman want to get married. You just send out the invitations and file for a license.

It's true that we are lied to. We think America is free, our press is uninterfered with, and some people still think our government doesn't lie to us. What the heck. Why are we in Iraq? It doesn't have a thing to do with stopping terrorism or catching Saddam Hussein. It's owning OIL and the balance of power.

Just watch international news a few times a week to hear the stuff you'll never hear on CNN (heh).

Marriage? The term was set up to mean between a man and a woman. If anything, we should probably remain consistent about our legal vernacular. Make some other term for gay marriage.

I'm not against gay people. I work with several of them, they are people just like us, with feelings, minds, thoughts, some are excellent at what they do and they deserve an equal chance just as anyone else. Personally, I don't necessarily approve of gay sex (I think it's obvious the plumbing wasn't designed to work that way!) but as long as they don't impose their beliefs on me, more power to them. It's America, and people should be free to believe what they want to believe. That is what America is supposedly about.

I am as heterosexual as they get - but hey - we are being lied to and our freedoms are being slowly eradicated and eeked away. Someday the right to be gay may be the only choice anyone has left...

John,

If you had a valid point in any of your arguments (dubious) it's been shadowed by your consistantly insulting delivery. You are certainly the rudest poster I have ever seen on DA7.com. Congratulations!


"Gays married? My god, haven't they suffered enough?"

OK....We're off to our private Gay island. I've commissioned a used Princess Cruise Liner that holds 300. I'm looking forward to filling it with able Seamen who can swallow their pride and never leave their buddie's behind. If fact, I've hired a Captain that is sure to go down on his ship. Yes Virginia, they're be a Poop deck! We might even go Round the World and Felch to our hearts content under a Full Moon. My God, I'm getting Wood just thinking about it. We'll call it the USS Gay Viagra-The Stiffest Ship in the Sea. Yes Nick, I can just see you in your tight Navy dress whites, straining at the Stool with your Mlitary Enema bag, readying yourself for the Saturday Night Mixer. I'm so horny I cound Plotz!

It's not your viewpoint that offends me John, in fact you have some interesting points regarding the Norad etc . It's still a stretch to go from the head of the Defense Policy Board to blaming Israel for the attack.

My problem is your inability to hold a discussion without describing us as and calling us s h i t h e a d s, morons, ignoramuses etc. I'm not worldly? And this you can tell from the few posts I've left in this thread. Say something crude about my surname, I couldn't care less. You are one hostile mofo with a badass superiority complex.

Dan:

Mogandus:

It's just the gorilla suit. Cool off.

Dan, he's a Northerner. That's just the way they talk, right John?

(Spoken by a Yorkshireman - born in Halifax.)

Bring it on...I gotsta use me guns! All this ammo and no targets. War has one positive aspest: It thins out the population.

Feel good soundbyte? The real world situation is that several million people in this country are gay. What percentage of discrimination against them is defensible? The line is "all men are created equal," not "equally." That means they have equal rights.

You're so naive you think I'm naive, for heaven's sake!