#1443 - 02/25/04 01:42 PM
Re: OT: Gay bashing
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Nick, to bring a moral topic into this forum is totally unprofessional and and as a result my respect for your judgement on all issues has been reduced considerably. As if you cared.
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#1445 - 02/25/04 02:27 PM
Re: OT: Gay bashing
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Are gay parents as good? Sure, they can be good people, love the child to death, and raise a decent kid… But wouldn’t it be better to have the influence of a mom and a dad around? Sure it would be better. It would also be better if every family were happy and not dysfunctional, if the divorce rate were much lower, and so on. But reality intrudes. Anyway, this isn't the issue - gay people can create or adopt children today. Unintended consequences. I believe that this redefinition opens the door to other types of marriages. What will be next?
To me this argument is reductio ad absurdum. No offense, but it only reflects a lack of understanding by equating homosexuality with all kinds of other things. Polygamy is illegal because it's really rough on the women. Next thing you know we'll have pedophiles marrying children and men marrying sheep! I think not. And the argument about sex education is really a tangent. I happen to feel that you never hurt kids by talking about issues, though. My 9-year-old daughter certainly knows about gay people and doesn't understand why there's any prejudice against them. She knows the facts of life, but isn't really thinking about that part of it (it's all a pretty disgusting idea to her!); she just accepts that sometimes men like men and women like women. To me those are good values, and I don't particularly take credit for instilling them in her, it's just the way she is.
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#1448 - 02/25/04 03:39 PM
Re: OT: Gay bashing
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Originally posted by DANIEL R. GOMEZ: Nick, to bring a moral topic into this forum is totally unprofessional and and as a result my respect for your judgement on all issues has been reduced considerably. As if you cared. Not to rush to Nick's aid (as if he needed it), but how, Dan, is discussing this issue in this forum unprofessional? I produce records for a living - have for over 25 years - and I have had some of my best, off the topic of music, conversations with many of the artists I have worked with. The studio is a forum where people from a multitude of diverse backgrounds discuss issues both serious and otherwise. I have produced albums for lesbians, homosexuals, blacks, whites, Jews, Rastas, Conservatives, Liberals & yes, even a number of well known Christian acts. I have heard many views on many subjects, but not once have I ever thought that the honest dissemination of information and opinion was unprofessional. I enjoy a healthy debate - and try to see all sides of the issue before rendering an opinion. Respectfully, I suggest you do the same.
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#1450 - 02/25/04 04:16 PM
Re: OT: Gay bashing
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Damnit!!!
I nearly missed the whole freakin' thing.
I respect those who think homosexuality is wrong. I disagree with them but I try to respect their values just as I hope they respect mine.
With that said: there is a simple solution to this problem.
If you don't approve of homosexual marriages, don't marry a homosexual. That is the end of your concern in the matter.
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#1451 - 02/25/04 04:16 PM
Re: OT: Gay bashing
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Loc: Washington State
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Originally posted by Shane: Nick, Assuming way too much can be problematic.
To Clarify, I said..." A society without absolute values, absolutely has no value."
And you audaciously spun it in the following assumption...
"What you really mean is a society without *your* absolute values absolutely has no value. And that value is unpermutated crap."
That is not what I meant, and, I totally resent you having the audacity to presume to speak for me! And what is "unpermutated" anyway? There is no such word. Shane, Perhaps you could clarify what you did mean. I honestly can't think of a way to see it different than Nick's stated observation. No disrespect intended. Just curious. Hopi
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